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    outriderx is offline MythTV Rookie
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    NAS, remote server (NFS or smbfs mount)?



    I would be interested to hear what kind of remote storage people use for their backend. Or do most people just configure the storage local to the backend and use a different front end?

    I have a single box (backend/frontend) but would like to store my "library" on a NAS device.

    Was wondering what kind of network will support this? Is 100mbps OK, or should I look at getting a gig switch?
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    100Mbps is probably okay. Depends on the type of content you will be watching and what your other network traffic is (and how good your 100Mbps network is - they aren't all equal).

    One of my slave backends is also a fileserver and I have no problems streaming multiple HD streams at once with my network topology (multiple backends streaming to multiple frontends).


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    I actually used to do this through a 10mbps hub!

    It wasn't brilliant, but wasn't unusable either.

    I now have a WD 1TB NAS drive that I use as a store for music, films, pictures etc... and all the frontends look to that as a mounted smb drive. I have, however, since upgraded to a gigabit switch as I have 5 frontends.

    The only problem I have found with this set up is that I have a sub folder in my Videos directory called "Kids", obviously this is full of kids films for my kids, but the problem is that the share has to exist on the server as well as the frontends - no problem there, but when you rescan the videos folder the backedn database gets filled up with just the kids films, and vice-versa when I rescan from a 'non-kids' frontend.

    It's not that much of a pain, but I would like to find a way to have a different video store for each frontend.


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    As long as mythvideo is set to share database settings (video path, metadata, etc.) for all frontends any changes you make to mythvideo scan directory settings will affect all other frontends.

    One thing you could do is use the listings view, and the remember tree position setting. Then on kid machines you can have it start in the kid folders, and on other machines start somewhere else. Might help a bit.

    Or you could look into XBMC, which would allow you to do what you want.


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    Ha - you know, I already have an xbox with xbmc on it - why didn't I think of that?

    I don't really want the kids watching TV too much in any case, and they hardly use their existing Myth boxes for that at all anyway.

    Thanks for reminding me (slaps own forehead!).


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    Quote Originally Posted by dchurch24 View Post
    Ha - you know, I already have an xbox with xbmc on it - why didn't I think of that?

    I don't really want the kids watching TV too much in any case, and they hardly use their existing Myth boxes for that at all anyway.

    Thanks for reminding me (slaps own forehead!).
    No worries. I actually run XBMC on the same machine as a couple of my myth frontends... Just to keep up, and to show off when friends are around. It is much more visually pleasing and has a much better music interface, so I always use it for music. Videos I tend to use myth due to the bookmarking function that stays the same for all frontends, so I can pick up where i left off in a different room.


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    Quote Originally Posted by newlinux View Post
    As long as mythvideo is set to share database settings (video path, metadata, etc.) for all frontends any changes you make to mythvideo scan directory settings will affect all other frontends.

    One thing you could do is use the listings view, and the remember tree position setting. Then on kid machines you can have it start in the kid folders, and on other machines start somewhere else. Might help a bit.

    Or you could look into XBMC, which would allow you to do what you want.
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    You shouldn't need to export recordings directories (you do for mythvideo, mythgallery, and mythmusic, but shouldn't need to for recordings). Myth can use its own streaming protocol for that. The first thing to do is check your frontend and backend logs and find out what the error is.
    Mentioned in these quotes: Mythvideo shares it`s database with frontends, and TV recorded material is directly accessible from the remote frontend (even via http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/index.php).
    So why can i not play mythvideo content using myth`s own streaming protocol.
    What needs to be done that I can access my stored videos just like I access recordings via the frontend? without setting up additional network shares...
    Last edited by ingeon; 06-15-2009 at 04:38 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ingeon View Post
    Mentioned in these quotes: Mythvideo shares it`s database with frontends, and TV recorded material is directly accessible from the remote frontend (even via http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/index.php).
    So why can i not play mythvideo content using myth`s own streaming protocol.
    What needs to be done that I can access my stored videos just like I access recordings via the frontend? without setting up additional network shares...
    I don't know why myth doesn't have the bility to use it's own streaming protocol for non recorded content. You have to set up network shares for the videos to be accessed remotely. That's just the way it is designed now.

    Your only other option is to import your videos into the recordings using something like mythrebuild.pl - I would guess then it would be able to stream using its own protocol

    Why don't you want to setup network shares?


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    Quote Originally Posted by newlinux View Post
    I don't know why myth doesn't have the bility to use it's own streaming protocol for non recorded content. You have to set up network shares for the videos to be accessed remotely. That's just the way it is designed now.

    Your only other option is to import your videos into the recordings using something like mythrebuild.pl - I would guess then it would be able to stream using its own protocol

    Why don't you want to setup network shares?
    I can`t remember all the reasons but one thing I remember thinking of was:

    I thought I could simplify the process of playing back videos from a server
    if say anyone connects a pc to my network, boots up with live mythbuntu
    for instance, puts in the IP and watches content without having to setup the shares etc.


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    myth .22 now allows storage groups for mythvideo (but you can't use external players this way yet) allowing you to bypass setting up network shares...

    You can also make mythbuntu live CD persistent and it could still automount all network shares...


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